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One thing some people have mentioned - who don't give any fucks about nations bullshit - is that they wouldn't mind a restart too much if they were able to download the current map.

Also, this is major decision and doesn't take into account players who don't visit the wiki, so it is not really representative of the whole playerbase, though perhaps the most dedicated. — Sikandar 2013/02/22 01:29

I intend to periodically spam #chat with the link to this page and information on how to vote. Unless I don't follow through on that for some reason, I don't see any reason why this vote shouldn't be binding. — V1adimirr 2013/02/22 02:32

I simply enjoy building with a small group of friends and do not really participate in the servers' politics. So long as I'm able to access backups somehow, I'm less adverse to the idea. This concept of a new map seems geared towards players who have been on the server for a while, interested in empire-building, tire from stagnation, and pine for times that will never return when many people frequented the server with people who will never return to the game. Players who have joined at later dates or do not really participate in nations have little to gain from this, but more to lose. This group of players accounts for most who are actively playing, with my small group of players and the recent influx of Poles who recently joined. They are not usually vocal with server politics or the wiki, but we exist as a chunk of the server's population. — hino 2013/02/22 03:54

I think now is the time for said individuals to make their voices heard. Also I might be for having two maps and leaving oceania for a freebuild and possibly creative.
This doesn't really have anything to do with nation building in my mind. The reason you may be perceiving this, however, is because those people that realize this map is not as good as it can be are those people who have been around for other maps. Those people also tend to have played with nations. It's not that we want more nations or to change the map because of nations, we simply happen to play with nations and we also happen to have been around to know that things can be more fun than they are now. The current map can absolutely be downloaded and absolutely still enjoyed. Nothing you have made will be lost forever. All that is being proposed is that we start a new map online. — V1adimirr 2013/02/22 05:42

who are these fucking people?